Sunday, November 29, 2009

Interview with Bolibar: Talking with a Genius


   Deep in the province of Bizkaia, there is a village with 408 inhabitants named Bolibar; which is two miles from the town of Markina. It is here that one of the greatest pelotaris in the history of Jai-Alai, Txikito de Bolibar, was born and still resides.
 
   Bolibar lives with Kontxi, his wife, and his two daughters 24 and 28 years of age, respectively. Together, they run a small bar located just a few meters away from the fronton. . Moreover, right in front of the museum-house; this holds the origins of Simon Bolibar, the “Libertador de las Americas.”


Bolibar earned a lot of money playing Jai-Alai – in 1982, in Durango, he earned more than $1,000 USD per partido ---and he knew how to save it, we know that well, the bar appears more a hobby than a source of income. At age 57, he has an excellent physical appearance. Since he retired he has been training twice weekly in Markina – he does this by playing the backcourt.

Who can forget the lanky figure with narrow shoulders and arms that would go on forever? The simian walk that would suddenly turn to predator, merciless with his adversaries. Bolibar was a well-rounded pelotari; his game could be the dirtiest and the cleanest, depending on the moment. He could just as well go down to line 2 or up to line 10 to help his backcourt. He was a genius of Jai-Alai, proud of his game, sometimes angry, and very ambitious. Once in Mexico, Bolivar who was already a veteran had just won a final beating a young Alberdi. Alberdi was in the dressing room crying inconsolably when Bolibar addressed him: “You cry, you cry, eh! ...You would be crying much more if I had gotten you when I was 28 year old.” On another occasion in West Palm Beach, when an average player made a point against his serve, Bolibar would declare from the bench: “Bah! 1,500 peseta players in Durango [a reference to minimum wage caliber]. He was very ambitious. During his first year in Tampa, he was injured for a few days. Every night he would pray to the Virgin Mary, not for his recovery but so that at the end of the season he would have the most wins.

Bolivar is still passionate about Jai-Alai. He lives it and does not miss a chance to relive his feats. What follows is a humble interview for someone who, as Orbea I said of him: “how can anyone play Jai-Alai so well”. I recognize that his career, his achievements, his adventures provide material for much more than just an interview, it could easily fill a whole book

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Interview

Of all the seasons you played in the US, which one was the best?

“They were all very good. I had the most wins in most of them. Maybe, the 1979-1980 Bridgeport season was the best. I won 216 quinielas, 49 singles, and 45 wins in the last quiniela.”




• And your best year in the Basque Country?

“My best memories are from 1982 when, playing with my brother Agustin, we won the World Championship in St Jean de Luz.”



• What was the most powerful roster that you have played in?

“In 1977, half the Tampa roster was taken to Hartford and the other half came from Miami. Perhaps that was the best roster. I played in that roster several months and established a record 99 quinielas and 50 singles.”



Why did you not play in Miami?

“In 1969, I signed with Berenson to go play in Miami. Later on, Berenson bought Tampa and took me there. As much as a player stands out in Tampa, he will never play in Miami, Berenson said. As it turns out, in 1974 he wanted to take me to Miami. I declined the offer and reminded him of his words. Plus I was doing well in Tampa.”



Your favorite US court?

“Tampa”



Your favorite court in the Basque Country?

“Markina”



What was the strongest part of your game?

“To point something out, my right hand, the rebote was pretty good as well.”



What was the weakest part of your game?

“Look, I would have liked to have had a better costado; I was never able to dominate it like Inclan, Joey or your brother Zulaica I.”



Who was your favorite players’ manager?

“I would say two, Beitia (Tampa) and Lasa (Bridgeport).”



The most well rounded pelotari you have ever seen.

“Ondarres.”



A Backcourt?

“Churruca.”



Who was your most dangerous rival in the quinielas?

“Without any doubt, Inclan. He was a terrifying opponent. He would catch any serve and he would throw costado everywhere. He would drive you crazy. I would opt to lob the serve to buy me time to reach the remate. I played with him four seasons in Milford. He used to tell me that he would rather be at the bottom of the wins record than to be number two behind me.



Your worst rival in partidos?

“Uriarte and Ondarres.”



Your greatest Jai-Alai achievement?

“I have won everything. My career is complete. That final in the World Championship when my brother and I won against Castro II and Goiogana, in San Juan de Luz, was something incredible.”



Any memorable points?

There was one in Tampa. Almorza and I were disputing a singles point. I returned 3 chic-chacs; and then I caught the ball  and pass to dominate. "Big Al" returned 2 incredible chic-chacs; I made the point with a dejada. It was an incredible play, an unusual volley; we were both burnt out when it ended. The crowds gave us a standing ovation, applauding for a couple of minutes. “Big Al” was a tremendous athlete, what a great rebote!” [I witnessed that point, truly memorable, otherworldly]



What current player do you like?

“Goikoetxea. In the back-court I like Lopez more than Irastorza.”



Do they play dirtier now?

“Yes. When Goiko and these guys get the ball by the side wall and they get away from the wall by taking some steps…..that was not done before.”



What has changed from your time to the present?

“In those days, there were more high caliber pelotaris, both front and back court. Presently, there are few.”



Do you remember an American pelotari who played with the name Rastock?

[He tries to remember…..]. “I know that he began to play in Milford at the inception of the strike and afterwards we played there. I am unable to recall anything else, in particular.”



When you played in Bridgeport there was someone in the audience who called you Booooooli!!......and you would answer back, remember?

“Yes, of course (and he laughs). He would come every Sunday. He was Cuban and came to visit Markina a while ago. Now he lives in Dania.”



Would you return to Florida for any exhibition?

“No. But I would like to play that month and a half in Ocala, I would love it.”




• Did you retire being Number One?

“I was 44 years old. I had had the most wins in Milford. Totorika offered me a contract to play in Euzkadi, but I decided to leave it. Everything I had to do in Jai-Alai, I had achieved.”



We said goodbye at the door of the bar, just a few meters from the fronton where he, Txikito de Bolibar, a genius of Jai-Alai, had taken his first pelotazos. Before I left, he made a gesture as if he were to catch the pelota with his reves, as he said, “Still got it, eh!”…….

40 comments:

  1. We grew up with Jai Alai in Orlando in the 1980s. I also followed Tampa, Miami, and Daytona Jai Alai. There were many great players incuding Joey, Arra, Arra II, Rufino, Echeva, Inclan, Aramayo, Soroa, Mendi, Mendi II, Asis, etc. Bolivar made us a believer that he was the greatest when he and Felix defeated Arra and Zarria in a 2 out of 3 tournament between Miami and West Palm Beach. Joey was great, but Bolivar was more complete, consistent, and dominating. Inclan was also great when he dominated in Daytona for many years. Those were some great memories!

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  2. If Bolivar comes back to Ocala, we will be there! He will still dominate.

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  3. Paco was the best backcourt ever, and Manolo the best front court.

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  4. Michelina & Joey were great too...

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  5. Wow...wouldn't that be something.....to see Bolivar play again in the states!!! If he comes back, I will be there!!!!

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  6. I was the Ball Boy for Bolivar when he was in Bridgeport, and he still looks great. I played professional because of all those great players I was around...giving me the chance as well.
    I will never forget the good times and great guys they were. It is so good to see his photo after all these years...we haven't aged a bit!
    There should be a statue of Bolivar somewhere after all he has done.(Maybe he remembers.)
    Thanks. Jimmy.

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  7. I remember Zulaica II leaving the Tampa fronton in his VW van.I loved watching the cat(Bolivar)giving me some of my fondest fronton memories.He and Felix destroying Michelena and Zarria in the 1985 NAJF Final in Miami was textbook.Boli made Zarria look like an amateur and the rowdy Miami fans began to chastise Michelena for repeatedly trying to score with the same shot.The shot was a two wall carom.As far as the Joey-Bolivar argument goes,my heart says Bolivar but the record says Joey.Marty Fleischmann probably said it best when he said on the average,Bolivar was better.On the other hand,if each was at their best,Joey was better with his wider array of kill shots.If Joey got position in the center of the court with his remate,even Bolivar was helpless.When Joey was clicking with that shot,he was probably favored over Boli as well.

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  8. Bolivar & Felix defeated Arra I & Zarria in the best 2 of 3 partidos between Miami and West Palm. Bolivar got increasingly better as the pressure built. These partidos made us true believers in Bolivar. He had the heart of a champion and willed his victory.

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  9. I had the best seat in the house at Bridgeport box 18..the tables and chairs..was privelaged to see Bolivar,Cachin,Del Rio,Egurbi,Castro 1 and riki lasa..list is endless..i thought that Bridgeport roster was great..thanks for the memories

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    1. Absolutely agree. Bolivar-Cachin-Lasa-Elorza-Ondarres-Churruca to name a few. Had to be one of the greatest rosters ever! I was lucky enough to have lived in Bridgeport & went to thousands of performances.

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  10. Saw all the great ones at Bridgeport from 76-82 and no one dominated like Bolivar he was just the most incredible player ever as for the back court I saw the fabulous Churucca,Goyo,Echave,and the best back courter of em all CHIMELA!!!!What a show he would put on...Awesome stuff.But with Bolivar I had seen the best player of all time.

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  11. To ME, Bolivar is the "Babe Ruth" of Jai Alai. The greatest I have ever seen and from what I have read, he is possibly the greatest front courtman ever. What I will never forget was one season at Bridgeport when Bolivar and Cachin battled that last month of the season for the player's title for most wins. That was the MOST fierce Jai Alai action anyone could have ever wanted to see when those two went head to head. Thank you Bolivar for all you gave to the sport and it was an honor to have seen you play for so many years. D.T.

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  12. You are correct about Bolivar being an artist in his skill and athletic abilities. I remember him and you from Tampa Jai Alai. You guys might remember me also. I was the ball boy at the Tampa Fronton during the 1971 through 1972 season. My name is Richard Faedo.

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    1. OF COURSE I REMEMBER RICHARD....THIS IS BRIAN BOWERS

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    2. Do you remember Augie he is my dad

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  13. Earlier poster stated that Bolivar and Cachin were neck and neck going into the last month and this is true but Cachin never had that put em away stuff,Bolivar easily tops him.Overlooked was the awesome Ondarres and Egurbi...Man they were giants.Most over rated player?? Juaristi hands down.And the player with the most promise who went backward??Elorza. Bolivar=The King of em all.

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  14. I saw 90% of these guys except for the late 60's Miami guys-I never saw Joey at his height in the 80's but saw Bolivar at Bridgeport. It is very hard to compare players of different eras-the game now is much fastet with a wider variety of shots-the high ceilings at Dania allow amazingly inventive complicated shots. Bolivar against Goiko-Lopez against Churruca. Don't be so sure that the best of yesterday could beat today's best-these guys throw the ball incredibly hard and can catch anything-Goiko's height makes him an unusual player in the front court.I do remember Bolivar's last year or so at Milford-he was walking on eggshells with his knees but we all age-this man did it all and is so proud. Long live Txikito De Bolibar-one of the great players in skill and heart.

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  15. I grew up in Fairfield (right next to Bridgeport)and was lucky enough to play amateur in Milford back in the day. My goal was to go pro and Bolivar was the man no doubt. Casinos had their way, but now with a great new Amateur Fronton in Berlin, CT. and a great outdoor scene down in St. Petersburg, Fla. this sport is on it's way back in this country. I'm right with all the other posters when they say "thanks for the memories" of the days of the CT frontons with all those great players.
    This sport is far too great and exciting to not make a comeback. Perhaps not nearly on the scale it had back in the day with the betting, but it is coming back.

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  16. He is the best player I have ever seen but I have to say that in his last year in Milford Lander had the most wins.

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  17. cachin was right there in his prime..but bolivar had the extram power and drive to make him the best

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  18. Bolivar post 8 the last game at Bridgeport almost everynight those were the days.Jai Alai had it's time unforunatley it will not come back here in CT.& might not last long in Fla.People like to blame the strike for the killing of the game but that really wasn't the case, even if all the Basque pros came back after the strike the Casino's in CT. would still have killed the sport.When Jai Alai first came here to CT. it was a new thing and after 10 years it wore off people were looking for a new interest.

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  19. Bolivar was without doubt the greatest...Cachin in his prime was real close and Ondarres, the smoothest...that Bbridgeport roster along with Churruca, Chimela and Egurbi was probably the best ever...

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  20. Great Bridgeport Lineup circa 1981

    1 - Castro I - Goyo
    2 - Del Rio - Goicoechea
    3 - Bereicua - Echave
    4 - Orbea - Elorza
    5 - Bolivar - Lasa
    6 - Ondarres - Nuarbe
    7 - Cachin - Ondarru
    8 - Egurbi - Mugartegui

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  21. Bolivar by far, the super human jai. Alai champ.
    Back when jai alai was at it's peak in Conn. I use to travel over an hour from. L.I. NY. To see bolivar and the other great players . Then I.Would go practice in Milford. Amateur court. All of us were inspired by Bolivar,more rhen any other player. What a great time for Jaialai!

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  22. I was a regular at jai alai from 1976-1988. Over a season, Boli was the best, although when he was on Joey may have been a tad better because of his remate. But Joey was not as consistent, and definitely below Boli in singles. I recall one singles point in Bpt against Churruca, who could still play at the highest level when he was near the end. Boli served and The Chief threw a dejada from near the back wall, catching Boli by surprise. He somehow got to the ball and they went back and forth, throwing every trick in the game at each other. Boli won the point, but it was a wonderful display by two of the greatest singles players of all time. I also happened to be in Tampa on Boli's very last night before he left for Bridgeport. When he came out for his first game, the fans all booed him. It must have inspired him because he put on the greatest performance I have ever seen, winning every game he played that night, and never losing a point! I still have the program, annotated with a point by point scoring system I used.

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  23. Bolivar was great except when I bet on him. He always stunk if I bet on him. One night, I took a far inferior player over him as the top of my trifecta. 3-2-7 in the 10th. Paid 748.12. In 1984. this was real money. Bolivar was the best I ever saw play. I liked some of the lesser players too. Tello, Corky and others

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  24. I was lucky enough to grow up in Connecticut in the 70's and early 80's. The greatest roster ever assembled, to me anyway, had to have been Hartford. Late game singles, Remen, Cachin, Mendi, Arriaga, Del Rio, Pablo, Gerny, Urquiaga (and later Alberdi). I can't tell you how many thrills we got from seeing the jai-alai night in and night out at that place! The crowds were enormous, and the play was extremely exciting. Back then, they used to climb the wall more too. I've lived in Florida since 1986, and have seen them all---Bolivar, Cachin, Joey, Remen, Goikoetchea, Arra, Irastorza, Lopez, Inclan. Must say, the greatest kill shot had to have been Joey. The greatest catcher in the world was Cachin (my favorite all time player). Later in his career, when he started throwing more kill shots, he may have been the best ever. Even better than Boli. Ofcourse, Joey may have been better than both of them. Goik from Miami now dominates so much. Would have loved to have seen him against the greats of yesteryear. I've seen some hard throwers---Elorduy comes to mind as one of the hardest throwers ever. An American player named Chaz in the 80's could chuck it too. But, to me, nobody had more power than Remen---one of the most underrated players in history. Of all the posts above, I did not see Remen's name mentioned once. He may not have been as bright as some others, but this man would just DOMINATE when he got on a roll. Incredible singles player!! Mendi wasn't too bad either. How many of you remember "triples" that they played in Hartford for a short time? Pretty cool! Remember a point in which a player named Juaregui caught and returned a ball in one motion the likes in which I have never seen before or since. We have GOT to get someone or some group that can market this sport here in the states to get it back to where it once was---or even better! To me, next to baseball, jai-alai is the greatest sport ever invented!!!!!!!!

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    1. Yes, Remen and Mendi were both very good players too. Mendi II was also great to watch, an incredible catcher.

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  25. watching his battle cachin aka uriarte at bridgeport was epic

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  26. I only saw him once in a tournament in Dania in the late 80's. Juaristi was Dania's best player and Bolivar just blew him out. I saw Inclan for a small part of a season again in the late 80's. I would have loved to have seen him against Bolivar as Inclan dominated the Dania roster for his short stay. Joey vs Bolivar I never saw. Saez (Palm Beach) held his own and so did Michelena (Miami). I miss them all.

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    1. Inclan in Daytona was absolutely amazing and completely dominated that roster in the early 80's. I think Joey and Bolivar were better though. It was interesting that Bolivar credited him as being the most dangerous opponent. I never saw him in CT, so maybe he continued to improve.

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  27. Cachin had the best hand eye coordination of any human n any sport. He caught everything. The brief experiment in Hartford with triples could only work with 24 highly skilled players who trusted each other. Zulaca, Cachin, Remen, Mendi. Orbea...guys like that controlling the point in the middle. Big Urquiaga with his fro back there with one eye Echave, Chimela, Zoqui, Gerny, Goik....and then the front court masters...I remember Cachin's last night in Hartford. He won every game...ran the board in singles...and then won the last match of the night with the old man Chimela, who let almost every ball go so Cachin could kill points with rebote caroms, passing shots...masterful game. It was Chimela realizing that Jose Luis really wanted that last game and Chimela wanted the fans to see the full arsenal in Cachin's game one last time. Bolivar may have had more power and was moremdominant for longer, but if they had been born in the same year and played each other in their true prime, I bet Cachin would havenheld his own. He was a true pro...very smart player...always calm the greatest hand eye ever. I still have the signed program from that night and a cesta he gave me and signed that night as he had cleaned out his locker. I played back court and had cestas from Zoqui and Urq, but I mounted the Cachin cesta. He was a legend. We would go to Milford occasionally to watch Bolivar near the end and he was great...and the Milford fans reminded us how Boli Cachin in Bridgeport, but I think that when Cachin developed more kill shots in Hartford to compliment his Brooks Robinson like cesta...he became nearly unbeatable. He made me a lot of money! So..props to Bolivar, but Remen and Cachin were all time greats in Hartford.

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  28. It was 90' or 91'. Bolivar made a rare appearence at Orlando. Before the performance I was allowed to play with the with the pro's being one of the best amatuers. I also was ball boy and at that time, announcer. It was me and Mendi vs Bolivar and a feature game player. The first thing I did was tell Bolivar what an honor it was to play on the same court with him. I switched from back and fourth as a back court to front court. This day was the first time I ever usd front court basket. I didn't realize how much easier to through and rebote accurately. We played for about 15 minutes. I threw some rebotes that pissed off the back court guy because he could not get to them because I varied the speeds. I could not beat Bolivar and I made some good shots. He has such great court sense that he was just standing there waiting for the ball. He wasn't even trying for the first 5 minutes. Then he started with those rocket rebotes and let hand throws that would go about head height until lowering to a chula. Mendi saved a bunch of those. However, needless to say, I lost about 20-10. I can't remember that feature playing back courter that played with Bolivar. He got even with me by thowing a pica just over my head and hit the front wall at the lower right. Everyone got a laugh at that. That's ok though. The manager Santi was watching. 2 days later I crushed his early game players in singles and some fun points with Oscar. So I sat down with Santi and asked him for a contract. He said he did not have a spot available, which was BS. He said he thought I was a great announcer and wanted me there. I said I am 27, it's now or never. I just destroyed your early game player 2 or 3 year scabs. The real answer was that he had a spot for a Basque player but not another american. I had only been playing for 3 years t that point. I always wonder what my potential could have been . .. . ..

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    1. I was playing amateur from 1978 to 1984 and I got to see Boli at his best and also Joey Who was the best? They were both Excellent. I almost got to practice with Joey but that fell through. Long story
      I would like to build an amateur front on and bring the game to Pennsylvania where it has never been.

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  29. I saw the game Bolivar spoke of with Big Al. Al was past his prime and Bolivar was entering his prime. Greatest singles game I ever saw. I am 67 now I believe same as Bolivar, traveled to every fronton expect Hartford. Again in Tampa saw Bolivar run 23 straight points. Started at matinee and ended that night. This was when there was real Jai Alai placement of players. Bolivar played out six box 3 times in the 23 point run. Love Jai Alai, it is a shame that it is gone. John Edmonson johnbecki115@aol.com

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  30. Anyone have any video of that Arra I- Zarria vs. Boli-Felix partido?

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  31. Arra I was always my favorite player and I've never seen him in a partido.

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  32. Gus :
    A few months ago next to my pizza shop is a thrift store and I saw this car pulling up to the drop off box and had a sticker at bomber “JAI-ALAI “ 😁
    Damn I said since I played the game day and night for over 20 years lol
    And the other half of the time waching it first in bpt fronton then in milford , so I see this tall gentleman getting out of his car to place probly some of his belongings to the thrift Store box , it was none other then mr CHIRUCA himself I walked up to him said hello he responded without hesitation pleasantly and willingly we chatted for a few moments I thanked him for the best times we had waching all the best players on the late seventies in bridgeport , he looked very fit as always and I would gues he is past eighty plus , nice to see you mr Churuca 😀

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  33. I was there the night Bolivar played Almorza and we gave them both a standing ovation. I found this post trying to see if there was a recording. Greatest display of Jai Lai I have ever seen.

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